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Nije tacno, jer su oni izdali samo taj album za NB. Ostale su izdali za Relativity. Zadnji album nije uradjen iz nuzde, ali je jasno da je nastao zajedno sa CD pesmama.

 

@diamond:

 

Ne znam tacno koja pesma na CDu, ali znam da ima varijacija iz crushera ..."vicious kind that crush and kill..." i jos... davno sam to zapazio i ne mogu sad da se setim tacno.

 

Inace, Symbolic jeste da ima do jaja produkciju, ali necu da ulazim u zanrovske podele, mada moram primetiti da Death posle Humana, a pogotovu posle ITPa nije vise bio death metal. Sve to doosta vuce na prog, uticaj Watchtower-a je bas primetan.

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Nije tacno, jer su oni izdali samo taj album za NB.

Ne razumem sta ti je tu nelogicno? Zadnji Death je izdat za NB, kao i Control Denied. Meni to savrseno ima smisla.

Dodje Cak u NB i pita jel hocete da izdate CD? Hocemo, ali pod uslovom da snimis i izdas jedan Death za nas.

Opet kazem, ne tvrdim ja da je to tacno, ali ima logike.

 

Evo ti, sa oficijelnog sajta:

"At the end of the year (1997) Chuck signs with Nuclear Blast Records and is allowed to do Control Denied after making a Death album first."

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Иако многи праве паралелу између Death и Control Denied, по мени су то два сасвим различите ствари и мислим да је неправедно посматрати их на тај начин.

Control Denied ми је ипак софистициранији, у неку руку и храбрији.

Не би Чак правио 2 исте ствари, нема шансе.

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Ne razumem sta ti je tu nelogicno? Zadnji Death je izdat za NB, kao i Control Denied. Meni to savrseno ima smisla.

Dodje Cak u NB i pita jel hocete da izdate CD? Hocemo, ali pod uslovom da snimis i izdas jedan Death za nas.

Opet kazem, ne tvrdim ja da je to tacno, ali ima logike.

Citao sam brojne intervjue, i nisam dosao do tog zakljucka. Sto se tice tog uslovljavanja, ako je Chuck na to pristao onda i nije bio nista bolji na kraju od gomile drugih bendova koji bi sve uradili zbog ugovora sa velikom kucom.

 

@necro: fora je sto CD i zadnji Death nisu dve razlicite stvari, sto je i vrlo uocljivo. Cak se i pesme Bite The Pain i A Moment of Clarity nalaze na demosima iz '96.

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Иако многи праве паралелу између Death и Control Denied, по мени су то два сасвим различите ствари и мислим да је неправедно посматрати их на тај начин.

Control Denied ми је ипак софистициранији, у неку руку и храбрији.

Не би Чак правио 2 исте ствари, нема шансе.

The Fragile Art Of Existence je bas bas mnogo ozbiljan album

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@necro: fora je sto CD i zadnji Death nisu dve razlicite stvari, sto je i vrlo uocljivo. Cak se i pesme Bite The Pain i A Moment of Clarity nalaze na demosima iz '96.

Слободни доживљај та два издања је прилично различит, то што се одређене ствари преклапају ми не значи много у том смеру.

Death је далеко оштији, сировији док је Control Denied далеко више просторан и мултидимензоиналан је, што не значи да је Death једностран али је ипак другачији иако је "The Sound of Perseverance" генерално, најслободнији Death албум и музички најшири.

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Inace, Symbolic jeste da ima do jaja produkciju, ali necu da ulazim u zanrovske podele, mada moram primetiti da Death posle Humana, a pogotovu posle ITPa nije vise bio death metal.

 

Čisto pitanje ukusa.Po meni,to je pomerilo granice death metala i bilo nešto izvan vremena.Po nekima ni Spiritual Healing nije death metal,jer je to više izdaja death metala nego metal.Što opet nije tačno.

 

Da ne govorimo o human-u koji je daleko od underground death produkcije.

 

Lepo je chuck rekao na Spiritual-u,DM ne mora da bude underground produkcija,satanistički tekstovi,i sviranje u multi spidu.Odprilike tako je nekako rekao.

 

Što se intervjua tiče,chuck je puno menjao izdavačke kuće,što svi znamo,a možda neko ne zna,ITP je bio posvećen novinarima i izdavačkim kućama.Chuck je uvek govorio da želi da neko oseća da je album koji je kupio vredan svake pare,kao kad je on kupovao Kiss albume.

 

evo jedan simpatičan tekstić

 

My name is Frank, I became Chuck's Letter Carrier (Mailman) in 1985. I'm still on the same route. So I've known Chuck, Jane, Bethann, et-all on a personal basis for over 17 years.

 

When I first met Chuck they (Death) were playing in his garage with the usual complaints from the neighbors about that "noise" from their house. Chuck was great about it. He didn't let it get him down. I watched him progress from that garage to several European tours. As time went by and when Chuck was home we would sit at his mailbox and he would tell me what had been going on while he was on tour. He'd tell me about the that piece of shit manager he had and the crap that he put the band through. He'd tell me how the "label" was robbing them blind. He'd talk about getting their equipment ripped off in Europe. He'd tell me these things and I would wonder why he still did it. Through it all Chuck would say "it's cool everything will be alright". He really loved what he was doing.

 

I didn't know Chuck the musician. This might be sacrilegious to say here but I'm not into metal I never have even listened to one of Chuck's songs. I really didn't know the impact he had on the music world until I stumbled onto your web-site tonight, but I did and do know the impact that he had on the people he touched around here including me. Chuck was a gentle soul. One of the kindest most caring people I've met in my 40 years. Chuck completely blew away any stereotype that I had about "Metal Heads". He truly was one of the nicest most caring person I have known. Definitely not what is portrayed by the media. He was very intelligent and I enjoyed our conversations. He was always more concerned with other people more than he was for himself. It concerned me that unscrupulous people took advantage of this man that just wanted to create music and share it with his fans but he seemed to take it in stride. He was just that way. He had a fierce love and devotion to his family. He was absolutely obsessed with insuring that his family was alright. During his illness when he was able to come out and talk to me, he would tell me how he was doing. If the news wasn't that good he would say "don't tell Mom, I don't want to worry her". Through out his fight I would get any news that I could get either from his family or from some close neighbors. Many a prayer was spoken at my house for Chuck and now for his family. Throughout his ordeal Chuck kept a fantastic attitude always saying that he was going to beat this thing no matter what the prognosis was from the doctors. Usually by the end of our talks he was trying to cheer me up. I considered Chuck a friend and I hope he felt the same about me. It devastated me when I heard that he has passed away I stood there hugging Jane and weeping because I felt that the world had just lost another GOOD person.

 

Now as to Chuck's family; I would ask that you would all say a special prayer for them. they fought a long hard battle with many an up and down but always with the steadfast belief that he would pull out of it. No matter how dire the prognosis from the Doctors you'd hear Bethann say that they didn't know what they were talking about. She was driven to get Chuck the best help that could be found, usually a high personal cost. Chuck's passing has hit all of them hard both emotionally and financially. Jane has been devastated first by the loss of her son who looked after her but also by the sharks trying to feed off of the blood sweat and tears of Chucks accomplishments and for any of you that might be reading this SHAME ON YOU!!! Be ware as furiously as Bethann fought to keep Chuck alive she is fighting just as hard to insure that you whores don't profit off of something that you're not entitled to. But ultimately you will have to answer to whom ever it is that you pray to. But I digress, Chuck has a nephew (Bethann's son) who idolized him. They were Buds and this has hit him especially hard. He's a great Kid well maybe not so much a kid anymore and he could use our prayers. Then there is Bethann, one of the strongest person that I know. She goes after things that she is passionate about with a dogged determination that awes me. She is the kind of person that I want on my side if I need to get something really important done. She is definitely not someone that I wanted pissed off at me. Despite her hard exterior she has a heart of gold. As was Chuck she is absolutely devoted to her family and insuring that her Mom is alright. She adores her son and works tirelessly.

 

It did my heart good and caused me to get misty eyed to see your out pouring of mail that I delivered to Chuck's family. It showed me that you guys (especially over-seas) really loved him. I would beg you to continue his family needs your support more than ever. Daily there seems to be some new challenge they have to deal with and I'm sure that your support helps.

 

Frank Rowe, June 22, 2002

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Sada sam nasao linkove(rapidshare) za snimak iz Eindhovena 98 ...pa me interesuje je li to ovaj video:

 

 

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Daj link ! Ja sam to trazio jedno vreme, nisam nasao i odustao :bigblue:

 

Ili moze i neki torrent ako ima :bigblue:

 

:pivopije:

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Prvo, na Dynamu nisu samo Duches, a drugo - nije sva publika na festivalima nuzno festivalska publika.

I najvaznije - lako je sada biti pametan. Bilo je kako je bilo.

:exclaim:Death je retko ko slushao dok su bili zivi. :exclaim:

Danas ih slusha svaki drugi hevosh [bez uvrede, samo konstatujem].

Idite lepo na koncert nekog aktivnog benda pa skachite, ako Vas nerviraju snimci.

 

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- nije sva publika na festivalima nuzno festivalska publika.

 

:exclaim:Death je retko ko slushao dok su bili zivi. :exclaim:

Govorio sam uopsteno.

 

Ja sam ih slusao dok su bili zivi,tacnije od kad se pojavio human.

 

Nema potrebe da djipas.

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A u vezi popularnosti........ I dan danas retko ko voli albume pre Individuala, valjda zato shto nisu "prog".........

Na to se smrznem kad chujem. "Prog".

 

@ Nimrod: Kul, i ja govorim uopshteno. :pivopije:

 

Ja sam ih slusao dok su bili zivi,tacnije od kad se pojavio human.

Ma verujem.

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Death nije ni priblizno ranije bio postovan i popularan ko sad, ali svejedno nije mogla slava da ga udari u glavu i da napravi losh album zbog toga XD. Salim se ali sigurno je bilo ljudi i tad koji su slusali ali to je ono bio mali krug Death metal fanova . :)

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Prvo, na Dynamu nisu samo Duches, a drugo - nije sva publika na festivalima nuzno festivalska publika.

I najvaznije - lako je sada biti pametan. Bilo je kako je bilo.

:exclaim:Death je retko ko slushao dok su bili zivi. :exclaim:

Danas ih slusha svaki drugi hevosh [bez uvrede, samo konstatujem].

Idite lepo na koncert nekog aktivnog benda pa skachite, ako Vas nerviraju snimci.

 

Ma dobro bre to nego mi je krivo ,ja sam 91-god i neznam koliko su ih ljudi slusali u to vreme jer sam tek tada pocinjao da izvaljujem koliko je uber Euro krem a kamoli da slusam Death! :da: Sve,sve ali na onom snimku su 99% ljudi iskulirani,tuga! :no:

 

@Vajar:

Kao prvo moz ti meni malo da se sagnesh jer me ni neznas a vredjas me,nisam ja za tebe budala...

Kao drugo nisi me ukapirao,u tome je stvar i sam si jebeno rekao u onome sto se desava na bini...ljudi jebeno kidaju kako sviraju a publika blene ko tele u sarena vrata i to aj da je deo nje nego skoro svi i to me nervira jer ja nikad necu da doziivim to da vidim a neki retard koji je imao tu priliku je cesao bulju i brojio zvezde na nebu dok mu je Death przio ispred nosa.....toliko!

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@Pupak: vredjaj se ako zelis, nije moja stvar. To sto sam rekao je bila samo konstatacija, inace tacna. Zasto tebe jebeno interesuje sto je publika smor, ko ih jebe. Ja sam ovaj snimak video skoro cim je izasao, tad sam bio mladji malo, pa opet mi to nije smetalo da uzivam. A i zasto se nervirati zbog necega sto ne mozes da promenis...

 

Nimrod: jeste tad Death bio poznat, ali vise u manjim krugovima, tek kad je cak dobio sidu i umro vise ljudi je pocelo da ih slusa.

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@Pupak: vredjaj se ako zelis, nije moja stvar. To sto sam rekao je bila samo konstatacija, inace tacna. Zasto tebe jebeno interesuje sto je publika smor, ko ih jebe. Ja sam ovaj snimak video skoro cim je izasao, tad sam bio mladji malo, pa opet mi to nije smetalo da uzivam. A i zasto se nervirati zbog necega sto ne mozes da promenis...

 

 

....Ne mogu jebeno da se nerviram zbog jebenog foruma,mrzi me da se raspravljam a i ne vredi preko tastature....

 

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