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pa on je bio genije al' ne muzicki biggrin.gif

Aj ti ces da mi kazes da nije bio muzicki genije.Slusaj sto bi rekao CTPAX ako nije zasto mi razglabamo o njemu a sem toga koje argumente imas da nije bio muzicki genije?Da nemas mozda ti grupu koja je izdala par albuma i popularna je kao sto su Dorsi bili i ostali? :evil::evil::evil:

Slozila bih se sa Hetfildom i Michelle,Morison jeste bio genije,ali sa muzicke strane,sasvim je prosecan.Njegovi textovi i ideje su ono o cemu posle 30 godina razglabamo,ali njegova muzika....sasvim obicna.

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pa on je bio genije al' ne muzicki biggrin.gif

Aj ti ces da mi kazes da nije bio muzicki genije.Slusaj sto bi rekao CTPAX ako nije zasto mi razglabamo o njemu a sem toga koje argumente imas da nije bio muzicki genije?Da nemas mozda ti grupu koja je izdala par albuma i popularna je kao sto su Dorsi bili i ostali? :evil::evil::evil:

Slozila bih se sa Hetfildom i Michelle,Morison jeste bio genije,ali sa muzicke strane,sasvim je prosecan.Njegovi textovi i ideje su ono o cemu posle 30 godina razglabamo,ali njegova muzika....sasvim obicna.

A nemoj sad i ti.Treba slusati dovoljno dugo da bi se razumjela njihova muzika.A citao sam i sve njegove zbirke pjesama.Totalno ludilo.Ma za mene je genije a cijenim svacije misljenje.

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Ne bih se složio, ima veze, to je muzika za koju je on vjenčao svoje tekstove... Ne volim kad vazdižu njega, a ovoj trojici ne znaju ni imena. The Doors su skup od 4 elementa, a sad ako neko izuzetno voli njegovu poeziju (ili njegov lik, što je čest slučaj kod žena) neka zbog toga ne omalovažava rad grupe... Koliko god je bilo genijalnosti u njegovim tekstovima toliko je bilo i odličnih muzičkih ideja... Oni su ispratili sve njegove promjene kroz raspoloženja i žanrove a da su opet imali zvučni identitet u svakom trenutku...

Jebiga ženo, al' mor'o sam.

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Nemoj se cuditi ako utvrdis da si vezan za radijator.

 

Ja se potpuno slazem sa tobom. Ali stvar je u tome sto se niko nije protivio grandioznosti muzike The Doors, vec tvrdnji da je Jim Morrison bio muzicki genije- sto nije, Morrison je bio odgovoran za tekstove i u tome je bio izvrstan. Manzarek, Krieger i Densmore su pisali muziku i Morrisonu tu ne idu nikakva priznanja. Oko toga je sve pocelo.

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da li je neko ovde slusao njihov album the american prayer?po meni to je njihov najbolji album,zamislite album koji je ceo nabijen the end!!

samo bih jos da dodam ovo:

Now Night arrives with her purple legion

Retire now to your tents and to your dreams

Tomorrow we enter the town of my birth

I want to be ready'

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sve su im pesme odlicne....Doorsi su carevi!!! Samo mislim da ovaj pokusaj da naprave turneju i nekakav come back nije uspeo jer Doorsi nisu Doorsi bez Jim-a........to da se razumemo icon_da.gif

Oni su vec radili turneju bez Jima, cak su ako se ne varam i album snimili negde 80ih

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Nisu izdali pod imenom The Doors, nego neki Circle, ali ne znam kakvo je tacno ime. Pre nekih 7 godina (a mozda i vise, ne smem ni da racunam) sam imala plocu u rukama, neki tip ispred SKC-a mi je davao skoro za dzabe i nisam imala hrabrosti da to uzmem i poslusam.... mislim da bih se razocarala, a necu da kvarim utisak. Dorsi nisu bili SAMO Jim... i drugi su vredeli...samo ne znam kako su zvucali bez Dzima.

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Oni su vec radili turneju bez Jima, cak su ako se ne varam i album snimili negde 80ih

Dva album su izašla neposredno nakon Džimove smrti ali su obeshrabreni neuspjehom prekinuli sa radom...

 

Čini mi se da su na koncertima 2001. sa Esberijem iz The Cult za mikrofonom svirali i neke 'nove' stvari i mogu reći da su se meni te stvari poprilično svidjele...

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Nisu izdali pod imenom The Doors, nego neki Circle, ali ne znam kakvo je tacno ime. Pre nekih 7 godina (a mozda i vise, ne smem ni da racunam) sam imala plocu u rukama, neki tip ispred SKC-a mi je davao skoro za dzabe i nisam imala hrabrosti da to uzmem i poslusam.... mislim da bih se razocarala, a necu da kvarim utisak. Dorsi nisu bili SAMO Jim... i drugi su vredeli...samo ne znam kako su zvucali bez Dzima.

Lepo definisano... ali zaboga kako bi bez onog bizarnog glasa i tekstova za koje nemam definiciju icon_da.gif

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ajd malo da ozivim temu o legendama... evo jednog texta za slabije poznavaoce

 

James Douglas 'Jim' Morrison (1943-1971)

 

 

 

American rock singer and rock lyric who achieved after his death a cult position among fans. Morrison wished to be accepted as a serious artist, and he published such collections of poetry as An American Prayer (1970) and The Lords and The New Creatures (1971). The song lyrics Morrison wrote for The Doors much reflected the tensions of the time - drug culture, the antiwar movement, avant-garde art. With his early death Morrison has been seen as a voluntary victim of the destructive forces in pop culture. However, he was not ignorat about the consequences of fame and his position as an idol. Morrison once confessed that "We're more interested in the dark side of life, the evil thing, the night time."

 

"This is the end, beautiful friend.

It hurts to set you free,

But you'll never follow me.

The end of laughter and soft lies.

The end of nights we tried to die.

This is the... end."

Jim Morrison was born in Melbourne, Florida. His father was a US Navy admiral and the family moved accrording to his father's numerous postings. Morrison was early interested in literature, he excelled at school and he had an IQ of 149. Morrison studied theatre arts at the University of California. With his fellow student Ray Manzarek and John Densmore and Robbie Kriger he formed a group which was in 1965 christened The Doors. The name was taken from Aldous Huxley's book on mescaline, The Doors of Perception, which quoted William Blake's poem (If the doors of perception were cleansed / All things would appear infinite). All the members of the band read much, not only Morrison. Their first album, THE DOORS (1967), mixed performances from Bertold Brecht/Kurt Weil's 'Alabama Song (Whisky Bar)' to Willie Dixon's 'Back Door Man'. The lyrics Morrison wrote in 1965 dominated the first two Doors albums. The first single chart success came in July 1967 with 'Light My Fire'.

 

Between childhood, boyhood,

-------------adolescence

& manhood (maturity) there

should be sharp lines drawn w/

Tests, deaths, feasts, rites

stories, songs & judgements

(from Wilderness, 1988)

Like in the late 1950s when the beatniks tried to unite jazz and poetry, Morrison found from music a channel to project his poetry, and add to it a theatrical aspect. Thus improvising and unpredictableness was a part of the band's show on stage. The mythical Lizard King, Morrison's alter ego, appeared first in the best-selling record WAITING FOR THE SUN (1968) in a poem that printed inside the record jacked. I was entitled "The Celebration of the Lizard King". Part of the lyrics were used in "Not to Touch the Earth" and the complete "Celebration" appeared on record ABSOLUTELY LIVE (1970).

 

Morrison's drinking, exhibitionistic performances, and drug-taking badly affected his singing and input at recordings. "Let's just say I was testing the bounds of reality. I was curious to see what would happen. That's all it was: just curiosity." (Morrison in Los Angeles, 1969) In Miami in 1969 the audience thought it saw Jim's "snake" - he was charged with exposing himself on stage, in full view of 10.000 people. The police did not arrest him on the spot, for fear that it would cause a riot. Next year Morrison was sentenced 8 months' hard labor and a $500 fine for 'profanity' and 'indecent exposure', but he remained free while the sentence was appealed against. THE SOFT PARADE (1969) was received with mixed emotions but it had a hit single, 'Touch me'.

 

After Miami everything changed and Morrison put his leather pants in closet. "See me change," he sang. He grew a beard, started to take distance to his fans, and devote more time with projects outside the band. John Densmore has later told in an interview, that although he knew Jim well, there was so much about him that he could not find out. Possessed by his inner visions and urge to write and create music Morrison also had troubles to explain his aims.

 

"O great creator of being, grant us one more hour

to perform our art and perfect our lives."

In April 1970 MORRISON HOTEL hit the lists in the U.S. and England. It was hailed as a major comeback. One song on it, 'Queen of the Highway', was dedicated Morrison's wife, Pamela. On his 27th birthday, Morrison made the recordings at Elektra's LA studio of his poetry, which later formed the basis of AN AMERICAN PRAYER. The Doors played their last concert with Morrison in New Orleans. It was a disaster - Morrison smashed the microphone into the stage, threw the stand into the crowd and slumped down.

 

"Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain.

And all the children are insane,

Waiting for the summer rain."

After finishing sessions for a new album, L.A. WOMAN, Morrison escaped to Paris, where he hoped to follow literary career. He never came back from Paris. His first book, THE LORDS AND THE NEW CREATURES, was published by Simon and Schuster in 1971. It went into paperback after selling 15.000 in hardback. An earlier book, AN AMERICAN PRAYER, was privately printed in 1970, but not made widely available until 1978. On 3 July 1971 Morrison was found death in his bathtub. He had regurgitated a small amount of blood on the night of July 2, but claimed he felt fine. Recently had consulted a local doctor concerning a respitory problem.

 

STAR FISH GLUTTONY

Star fish gluttony

what are the word-forms

--for co(s)mic encounter

wedding flesh & mind

----in one body

(from The American Night, 1990)

Morrison was buried at Pére Lachaise cemetary in Paris, which houses remains of many famous artists, statesmen and legendaries from Edith Piaf to Oscar Wilde. In 1990 his graffitti-covered headstone was stolen. His wife, Pamela Courson Morrison, died in Hollywood of heroin overdose on April 25, 1974. In 1979 Francis Ford Coppola used The Doors' performance of 'The End' in his Vietnam War film, Apocalypse Now, and in 1991 director Oliver Stone made the film biography The Doors, starring Val Kilmer. WILDERNESS: THE LOST WRITINGS OF JIM MORRISON was published in 1989.

 

Poems and other fiction and non-fiction by Jim Morrison:

An American Prayer, 1970 (poems)

The Lords and the New Creatures, 1971 (poems)

Jim Morrison collaborated on a screenplay with poet Michael McClure and directed the film A Feast of Friends. He had made films to accompany "Break on Through" and the 1968 single "The Unknown Soldier".

Wilderness: The Lost Writings of Jim Morrison, 1989

The American Night: The Writings of Jim Morrison, vol.1, 1990

The American Night: The Writings of Jim Morrison, vol. 2, 1991

Morrison is credited as the writer of The Story of the Doors in Words and Pictures

For further reading: Jim Morrison and the Doors by Mike Jahn; Jim Morrison Au Dela Des Doors by Herve Muller; No One Here Get Out Alive by Jerry Hopkins and Danny Sugerman; Burn Down the Night by Craig Kee Strete; Jim Morrison by Frank Lisciandro; The Doors by Danny Sugerman; The Doors by John Tobler and Andrew Doe; Jim Morrison: Dark Star by Dylan Jones; Images of Jim Morrison by Edward Wincentsen; The End: The Death of Jim Morrison by Bob Seymore; A Feast of Friends by Frank Lisciandro; Light My Fire by John Densmore; Riders On The Storm by John Densmore; The Doors Complete Illustrated Lyrics by Danny Sugerman (ed.); Break On Through by James Riordan and Jerry Prochnicky; The Lizard King by Jerry Hopkins; The Doors: Dance on Fire by Ross Clarke; The Complete Guide to The Music of..., by Peter K. Hogan; The Doors: Moonlight Drive by Chuck Crisafulli - SEE ALSO: John Lennon

Selected records:

 

THE DOORS, 1967

STRANGE DAYS, 1967

WAITING FOR THE SUN, 1968

THE SOFT PARADE, 1970

ABSOLUTELY LIVE, 1970

MORRISON HOTEL, 1971

13, 1971

L.A. WOMAN, 1971

OTHER VOICES, 1971

FULL CIRCLE, 1972

WEIRD SCENES INSIDE THE GOLD MINE, 1972

THE BEST OF DOORS, 1973

THE BEST OF THE DOORS, 1974

AN AMERICAN PRAYER, 1980

GREATEST HITS, 1980

ALIVE SHE CRIED, 1983

THE DOORS LIVE AT THE HOLLYWOOD BOWL, 1987

IN CONCERT, 1991

THE DOORS SOUNDTRACK, 1991

GREATEST HITS, 1996

Videos: LIVE ATTHE HOLLYWOOD BOWL, 1987; TRIBUTE TO JIM MORRISON, 1988; THE DOORS IN EUROPE, 1990; THE DOORS ARE OPEN, 1990; THE DOORS, 1991; DANCE ON FIRE, 1991; DOORS: A TRIBUTE TO JIM MORRISON, 1991 - Films: American Pop, 1981

 

 

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