Agarth Posted May 1, 2004 Report post Posted May 1, 2004 Ako mislite na Tiamatov album "A Deeper Kind of Slumber" - depresivan je poprilicno, a monoton? Po meni nije, bas naprotiv... A uostalom, album je stvarno i zamisljen kao jedna tripozna uspavanka... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venatoris Posted June 15, 2004 Report post Posted June 15, 2004 Sta fali Anathemi? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovar Posted June 15, 2004 Report post Posted June 15, 2004 apsolutno nista. samo nije gothic. iako u poslednje vreme ubace po malo primesa starijeg fields of the nephillim zvuka. bez obzira koliko ne bila gothic, opet je na kub vise od onoga sto se danas prodaje kao gothic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agarth Posted June 16, 2004 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 verovatno je tako, ali ja opet ne volim dovođenje Anatheme u bilo kakvu vezu s gothicom (opet smaram, znam... ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovar Posted June 16, 2004 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 to je zato sto gothic gledas kroz crematory / within temptation staklo. uostalom, trendy je zalepiti dark ili gothic etiketu na nesto sto nije gothic. to vazi podjednako i za bandove koje volim i za one koje ne volim. i, da, smaras! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agarth Posted June 16, 2004 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 smaram II : na gothic gledam pre svega kroz Bauhaus, a, da... na gothmetal baš kroz Crematory / Within Temptation trip, i kapiram da to baš i nije toliko "gothic"... Neću više smarati majke mi , mislim da će Howling Wind poželeti da me banuje zbog mojih komentara ovde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovar Posted June 16, 2004 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 meni je sinonim za goth metal ToN, tiamat, moonspell (sednja faza), paradise lost... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinstrel Posted June 16, 2004 Report post Posted June 16, 2004 TYPE O NEGATIVE pa sve ostalo A ostalo pa recimo: To/Die/For, The 69 Eyes, Silentium, Poisonblack, Moonspell, Charon, Crematory... znaci komercijala uglavnom zato sto sve ostalo smara Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venatoris Posted June 22, 2004 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 After Forever je jak, ali kada mi dodje neki slepac pa mi tvrdi da je Nightwish gothic metal onda mi dodje da umrem... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatyannahhh Posted July 20, 2004 Report post Posted July 20, 2004 After Forever je jak, ali kada mi dodje neki slepac pa mi tvrdi da je Nightwish gothic metal onda mi dodje da umrem... ko li je to rekao.. ...slazem se za AF! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baki Posted October 30, 2004 Report post Posted October 30, 2004 After Forever je jak, ali kada mi dodje neki slepac pa mi tvrdi da je Nightwish gothic metal onda mi dodje da umrem... Donekle imaju gothic uticaje, ali su isto gothic koliko je Seka Aleksic dzez! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BODOM Posted October 31, 2004 Report post Posted October 31, 2004 Trebao bi da uzmes Nightwish,Moonspell,Tristaniu,Therion,69 eyes(oni su najbolji ),a ostalo...nebitno...bar za mene...i Manson nikad nece biti gothic... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovar Posted October 31, 2004 Report post Posted October 31, 2004 a debela tarja jeste?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baki Posted November 6, 2004 Report post Posted November 6, 2004 a debela tarja jeste?! Nije Taca gothic.....ali nije ni debela(vise)....izuzev ako ti ne smatras 85% zena debelim! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead on Arrival Posted December 14, 2004 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 Moonspell-mmmmmmmmmmmm...........to je moja preporuka!!! A moze i ToN,69eyes,Lacuna..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
шмизла Posted December 14, 2004 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 ja svakome preporucujem the cure,sisterse,joy division,siouxsie&the banshees,nick cave-a,bauhaus........ a od gothic METALA...hmmm,p ne znam,mozda within temptation(mother earth),lacuna coil je super.....pa i tristania mada mene smaraju.....ej da i HIM i tolko,ne razumem se ja u gothic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetHell Posted January 12, 2005 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 Uh, pa HIM.... Pa ne znam bas, oni i nisu neki gothic... Moze sa prvog albuma FOR YOU, IT`sALL TEARS, OUR DIABOLICAL RAPTURE. Posle Join Me In Death... E, a onda su oni Love Metal... Nisu mi cisti. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kali Agna Posted January 23, 2005 Report post Posted January 23, 2005 Ja ti toplo preporucujem (pored Theriona iz druge faze, Tristanie i AF) Nebelhexe, Dargaard i Xandriu... A moze li meni neko da objasni razliku izmedju gothica i dooma posto mesam ta dva pojma? Thnx... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovar Posted January 24, 2005 Report post Posted January 24, 2005 potpuno razlicita muzika. doom su ti anathema, bride, saturnus, stariji paradise lost, katatonia, empyrium,.... a gothic metal je jako nedefinisan. mislim, tesko da moze da se nadje nesto zajednicko ToN, tiamatu, moonspellu i sa druge strane "zenskom" goth metalu, tipa tristania, after forever,... iskreno, od goth metala, ta zenska varijanta me blago i ne samo blago gusi. jedan od validnih puteva goth metala je i love metal (finnish gothic metal, heavy rock, i koji jos nazivi za to postoje), a moja najtoplija preporuka su sentenced i HIM, posto je od njih sve pocelo. jos jedna stvar, gomila nekadasnjih doom bandova sada sviraju gothic. paradise lost i amorphis su primeri za to. pozdrav. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helle Posted January 28, 2005 Report post Posted January 28, 2005 Evo par...po mom ukusu: -The Flaw -Betrayed By Life -Buried Time -After Dark -Cales -Rhesus negativ -Sabre Noir Ma ima bendova da vam se zavrti u glavi...! Samo ovi su iz germani...Mrzi me da nabrajam...! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dzhasmin Posted February 14, 2005 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 Evo ti ovako............da ne bismo vise polemisali........lista gothic bendova.....razlicitih zanrova gothic-a btw.......lestat nije bas precizno objasnio razliku goth & doom(bar meni nije jasno), pa bih mu bila veoma zahvalna ako bi to ponovo ucinio..... A ovo dr. evo....moja lista gothic bands: JOY DIVISION, SIOUXIE & BANSHEES, KILLING JOKE, BAUHAUS, UK DECAY, SEX GANG CHILDREN, THE SOUTHERN DEATH CULT (post punk, death punk) SKELETAL FAMILY, THEATRE OF HATE, THE VIRGIN PRUNES, RED LORRY YELLOW LORRY, THE DANCE SOCIETY, SPECIMEN, MARCH VIOLETS rani THE CURE, SISTERS OF MERCY, THE MISSION, FIELDS OF THE NEPHILIM, CHRISTIAN DEATH,PLAY DEAD, SWANS( gothic rock) LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT, NOSFERATU, THE WAKE, LOVE LIKE BLOOD, THE MERRY THOUGHTS, ROSETTA STONE, CHILDREN ON STUN, VENDEMMIAN CORPUS DELICTI, DREADFULL SHADOWS, THE GARDEN OF DELIGHT, THE BOLSHOI, GENE LOVES JEZABEL, DIE LAUGHUNG, INKUBUS SUKKUBUS, SUNSHINE BLIND, THE SHROUD, MEPHISTO WALZ, MOONCHILD (modern gothic rock) THE INVICIBLE SPIRIT, CLAN OF XUMOX, THE RAIR SEX, DIARY OF DREAMS (electro githic) CASSANDRA COMPLEX PRESSUREHED, JAMES RAY`S GANWAR, GITANE DEMONE (electro-industrial) VOX, SARBAND, CAMERATA MEDIOLANENSE, ESTAMPIE, RONAN QUAYS, AND ALSO THE TREES (medieval) OSTIA, AURORA LYCIA, AREA BLACK TAPE FOR A BLUE GIRL, ENDRAUM, STOA, BLEEDING LIKE MINE, COLLECTION DÀRNELL ANDREA, LOVE SPIRALS DOWNWORDS, ANCHORAGE, LOVE IS COLDER THAN DEATH, COCTEAU TWINS, SOUL WHIRLING SOMEWHERE, ELEVEN SHADOWS (gothic eterial=ambient) MIZAR, ATARAXIA DEAD CAN DANCE( ethno-gothic) NEFILIM, CREAMING JESUS, LACRIMOSA(novije), THE 3RD AND THE MORTAL, CEMETARY OF SCREAM, THEATRE OF TRAGEDY, THE GATHERING, MY DYING BRIDE, TIAMAT, PARADISE LOST (doom&metal=kako sta ovde) CURRENT 93, DEATH IN JUNE, SOL INVICTUS, FIRE & ICE, THE MOON LAY HIDDEN BENETH A CLOUD, CLAIRE OBSCURE, MOTHER DESTRUCTION, ANDROMEDA COMPLEX, DORMANNU (gothic folk, occult, neofolk gothic) Ja ga pretera, al `to su originalni bendovi iz 80ih kad je to sve i pocelo(engleski i nemacki)....a za ovo novo pitaj druge.......a nightwish udaljite sto dalje odavde.........nije im mesto ovde.... evo jos ovi linkovi....sto AzzA rece da preselim ovde : www.morrigan-hel.com www.fatalvixxxen.com www.thesistersofmerci.com www.mydyingbride.org www.lacrimosa.com pogledajte ko nije..........odgovara ambijentu i goth diskusijama.... eto....to bi bilo to.......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovar Posted February 14, 2005 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 prosto, doom ima gomilu pod-varijanti, koje idu od trad. dooma, koji vise vuce na heavy (rani sabbathi, cathedral, candlemass) i sludgea, koji je blizak HC-u (crowbar), preko death dooma (raniji radov:i MDB, tiamat, PL, amorphis i anathema, zatim donekle saturnus) i gothic dooma (MDB, raniji radovi: tristania, moonspell, the gathering) do emo dooma i emo rocka (greyswan, noviji radovi: anathema, katatonia, the gathering). neke od tih pod-varijanti imaju dodirne tacke sa gothicom, neke ne. kod gothica je jos konfuznija situacija, jer su tu granice pod-pravaca jos bledje, pa neki gothic metal vuce na moderniji goth rock, nesto vuce na black/death, nesto na melodeath i doom, a nesto ima sasvim zasebnu pricu. trenutno najzastupljenija finska skola vuce korene iz melodeatha i dooma. ima tu dosta prostora za eksperimentisanje, ali za osnovni kurs treba procesljati komercijalu 80-ih (cure, sistersi, bauhaus, mission i cult), zatim stariju metaliziranu varijantu (fieldsi), zatim noviju metaliziranu varijantu (shadows, LAM, 69 eyes) i osnove metalurgije (T0N). usput pogledati i neki electro u najopstijim crtama (diorama, blut engel) i onda njuskati po fahu koji najvise lezi. ili dici ruke i slusati HIM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dzhasmin Posted February 14, 2005 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 Dooobro......manje vise sam tako i mislila..... Hvala......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovar Posted February 14, 2005 Report post Posted February 14, 2005 nema na cemu. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Watchtower Posted February 27, 2005 Report post Posted February 27, 2005 E shta je ovo : www.morrigan-hel.com Svidja mi se jedna slika pa hocu da je stavim kao avatar a ne znam shta je pa ako bi neko mogao da mi kaze !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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