Stvar je u tome, da ako koristis samo Karmu ili bilo koji Triton ( cak i LE ), pogotovo ako ih koristis u sklopu banda, i vise su nego dovoljni za cijeli zivot. No ako koristis vise syntheva, cujes im sve nedostatke. Meni Karma zvuci savrseno, dok ne upalim drugi synth Prednost Karme je da ubrzava proces stvaranja muzike. Recimo, napravim kostur i da se ne moram zajebavati sa pojedinacnim synthevima, popunim ga Karminim presetima, podvucem ispod odredjeni ritam i to je to- gotov sam za dan dva, ali da li se osjecam ko 100 postotni stvaraoc svoje glazbe - definitivno ne. Uostalom, zbog sve masovnije primjene Karminih preseta u filmskoj industriji uskoro bi mogle pasti i neke sudske tuzbe zbog autorizacije iako Stephen Kay uporno tvrdi da svaki vlasnik Karme ima autorska prava nad svime. Hm...
Da, ali losa Z1 i Prophecy farba. Iako iz Korga tvrde da je EXB MOSSU " samo nebo granica ", ja bih ipak rekao da je granica negdje u troposferi
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Imas tu lijep osvrt na Karmu i Triton ( ako ti se da procitati... )
Expressiveness/Sounds: 1
I need to agree with those (esp. the 40 yr old+ guy who have berated the Korg sound. I am completely mystifed as to what people like about the Triton/Karma patches.
Have any of you actually PLAYED an XV5080 or a Yamaha Motif? Korg doesn't even come CLOSE to the Yamaha or ROland sound. Every time I go into GC there are the usual thugs hunched over the Triton playing these ridiculously thin patches. I have to laugh. But here's the deal, the reason the Triton has caught on is really simple: R&B and HipHop producers like it's drums (somebody finally got a clue and put good rim shots, etc in a board - took 'em only 10 years to figure it out) and the fact the the Triton OS (with its touch screen)is BY FAR the most intuitive workstation in existence.
COmplete idiots can navigate the Triton's OS so it only stands to reason that every wanna-be on this side of the galaxy thinks the Triton can transform him into a superstar. Same phenomena with e MPC drum machines. Korg has struck gold and should be applauded for "breaking on through to the other side.."
But make no mistake, the Triton/Karma patches, for the most part, suck. They are thin, they are poorly sampled and on top of everything else, the converters Korg use BLOW like Julie Ashton. The electronic sounds are cold and uninspiring, the acoustic samples are the same ones Korg has been using since the M1 and the drums, though "modern" in sound, suck for everything but HipHop.
Add to all of this that 95% of Korg's patches have virtually no velocity switching whatsoever. When I had a Triton, I had no idea what I was missing out on.. until I played a Motif. Play a Motif... "expressiveness" will take on a whole new meaning.
There is CLEARLY an indication that Korg was pursuing a very specific audience when they designed the Triton and then partnered with Dexter Propellerhead to launch the Karma. For the Triton is was all about rap and hiphop and american dance (because I have not yet noted any stand up europeans, who have the cornermarket on dance music) using a Triton. The guys in the UK use Yamaha products (CS6x, A4000, etc), Akai samplers, Viruses, Nords, Waldorfs, etc not to mention all of the software based stuff. You don't see them with Tritons.
Granted, there are plenty of pros using Tritons, but don't think for a minute that Korg preset sounds are being pumped into commercial music songs. After the sequences are laid down, those Triton tracks are dipped in just about every top shelf effect in existence by highly paid professionals who exist solely to make things sound BETTER, BIGGER, BRIGHTER, SWEETER and SEXIER to your ears.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, it's just that I can see through Korg's smoke and mirrors. The Triton/Karma boards are not going to make you SOUND good. They are nothing but propagandized garbage with tons of bells and whistles to wow you at the music store. Think about it.. dual arps? SO f'g what!! Seen what Cakewalk Sonar can do with a MIDI track lately? I do things in Cubase a Triton couldn't even FANTASIZE about doing.
Listen, if you want good analog sound, get a Virus, a Waldorf, Reaktor or comparable and learn it. You will smoke everything your Triton/Karma owning peers are trying to do. If you want acoustic, either buy a new Akai sampler (Z series kick azz) and get some REAL GOOD stuff, or get a few boards like a Motif and a Roland XV5050 to complement it. And if you just want to make slammin' beats, buy Propellerhead's Reason and leave the competition in your wake.
Sorry for the rant, fellas, I'm just sick and tired of the Korg marketing machine dictating what is "hot" and what is not.
The Karma IS a gimmick, no matter how hard these guys who have invested $2,000 try to convince you otherwise. They key here, and it has been noted in several reviews, is that with the Karma it has a "mind of it's own." One guy even said you better have the recorder going for that right take if it happens.. like it's a f'g crapshoot. Nice.
THe Karma robs the musician of their creativity. It's a MIX AND MATCH technology similar to pasting together prefab parts in an application like Acid. By using the Karma's ideas, you are forfeiting your own. Personally, I don't have any desire to be a slave to the machine, as the machine will ALWAYS be a slave to ME. But that is the direction the gear industry is going. They want us all to be slaves to the machines so we gobble up their expansion accessories and keep their pocketbooks FAT. Korg is the NUMBER ONE perpetrator of this industry wide. Oh you don't believe me? DO you read Keyboard magazine? Who ALWAYS has the juiciest ads on page f'g one or two? Korg. Every issue as far back as I can remember. They have hailed everything they've ever produced as the next coming of Christ.
In summary, if you are a beginner or an intermediate producer/arranger and you're seeking an all-in-one solution that is easy to work with, and you DON'T give a $hit that the people you're competing against will hve demos that are far more dynamic and interesting than yours, the Triton/Karma IS for you. If you are a quality driven freak like me who demands realistic acoustic sounds and warm, buzzy, beautiful nasty analog, look further.
My picks:
Roland XV5050 (stay away from 5080, it's a complete rip off with no editor)
Access Virus
Yamaha Motif (best board on the market - bar none)
EMU Proteus 2000 (128 voices, better sounds than Triton, half the price)
Korg TritonLE (affordabel, lots of bang for buck..you don't need the sampler crap anyways, just use HALion in Cubase and the sky's the limit)
Reliability: N/A
Customer Support: 1
Assholes... just like the good folks at Roland and Steinberg. Only industry in the entire world where a company can $hit all over their customers and suffer no negative publicity. Unf'g real.
Overall Rating: 1
Korg is a marketing machine. They couldn't care less about THE MUSIC. If they did, they would update their patches and converters and everything else to ensure their customers were getting studio ready sound. As it stands, they cracnk out Casio grade patches.. and get away with it. For this reason, I couldn't care less about their products.