Speed_Dead Posted March 4, 2009 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 skupo to bratko za te pare mogu da kupim dva cedea Voje Gajdaša i još da mi ostane novca za 100 grama semenki od suncokreta aa pa onda ti kupi to nema frke, mozes i kod amera kod njih je 900... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vuk Posted March 4, 2009 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 ne lazi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joca_Wildchild Posted March 4, 2009 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Mislim da je 500 kinti skroz ok cena... I vishe nego ok... Ko kupi hvala mu, ko ne kupi hvala i njemu... Ali nemojte prichati jao mnogo jao kurac jao palac... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed_Dead Posted March 6, 2009 Report post Posted March 6, 2009 DaggerSpawn intervju @ lost in chaos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man From The Crypton Posted March 6, 2009 Report post Posted March 6, 2009 Odlichan album, momci !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko, Mon_a[MOR]e Posted March 6, 2009 Report post Posted March 6, 2009 Jel onaj CC longsleeve sa fotke iz bookleta busan na laktovima ? Valja album, nosi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arak Dai Posted March 6, 2009 Report post Posted March 6, 2009 Mishi ga izjeli.. salu na stranu, album mozete poruchiti od nas i ako zivite gde god,(posto ste me pitali vec 6 puta ) saljemo postom moze i post express do vrata vasih naravno, tu uslugu i preporucujem, jes malo skuplje al zato vam disk bude u rukama sutradan jebes 150 dinara ako nemoras de se cimatas do poste ili da cekas postara koj vise voli da cirka radzu kod komsije nego da ti donese paket koji i ovako putuje 100 godina XD Javite se na www.myspace.com/officialdaggerspawn ili mozete i ovde za order... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
banedeathmetal Posted March 7, 2009 Report post Posted March 7, 2009 DaggerSpawn - Suffering Upon The Throne Of Depravity Dobio album od Dace juce, do sada sam ga preslusao 2x. Evo moje licno misljenje o albumu (redom analiziram sve, i onda generalan utisak): Bubanj je nakucan, tako da kakav je - takav je. Nije los (nije nemoguce odsvirati tj ne realno nakucan, i to cenim). Sample za dobos i kontru su mozda mogli malo bolje, ali ok. Gitare su tehnicki dobro odsvirane, cak je i zvuk dobar (razume se svaki riff). Ali nazalost su ipak za nijansu preglasne...ja jesam gitarista i prvi volim kad su gitare (ajde da kazem) dominantne, ali mislim da bi bolje bilo kad bi se malo smanjile. Bass - jbg, kao i svaki DM album (sem CC haha) - svira skoro uvek unis sa gitarom, i cuje se samo kad ostaje sam, ili uz bubanj. Vokal je dobro otpevan, ali nazalost pre tih...bilo bi agresivnije da je vise stavljen u prvom plan, ali jbg, svi znamo nase uslove...po meni fali malo scream-ova (jer je tipa 90% growl), ali ne smeta to nikome ko voli brutalnu muziku. Svinjice i jako duboki (nerazumnljivi) vokali su bas do jaja. Za prvi album, produkcija je solidna. Ima par "gresaka" po meni, ali opet kazem - nije ne slusljivo zbog toga. Sama muzika je nista novo, tj nista ne vidjeno - US Brutal Death Metal, brutalno od pocetka do kraja. Poslednja studijska pesma malo uspori tempo, sto mi se svidja. Sve u svemu, drago mi je sto je izasao ovakav album iz Srbije, ali isto kao i nas prvi album - nista specijalno. Vec ima toliko puno bendova koji sviraju ovu vrstu muzike, sto samim time skoro pa nikako nemozes biti originalan. Meni iskreno ne lezi vise bas ovako brutalan zvuk, ali ima ko voli aravno. Tako da, ko voli - nek izvoli! Da moram da ocenim album, dao bi mu 7/10 s`obzirom da sve objektivno gledam. I da, naravno - svaka cast bendu, i samo napred !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arak Dai Posted March 7, 2009 Report post Posted March 7, 2009 Hvala care - znaci nam kritika puno, volim da cujem kakav utisak ostavlja ovo sve... Mislim da si bio skroz objektivan - rispekt! Recimo da bi dodao samo, da je na produkciju ( glasnoca gitara i sl. ) dosta uticalo i to sto je mix master imao zadatak da prilagodi produkciju snimka tonu artificial bubnja, tj da stvori zvucnu celinu...Da utopi bubanj u zvuk i samim tim gomila pravila se menja... Neke stvari se stisavaju neke pojacavaju na osnovu toga... Ziv bio - svidece ti se sta imamo u planu za future sto posto... Postavih i na you tubu video isecak za CHILDREN OF THE LIVID SEA tako da idite na ovaj ili guglujte Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siemens Posted March 9, 2009 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Daggerspawn na Popboksu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed_Dead Posted March 9, 2009 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 DAGGERSPAWN Suffering Upon the Throne of Depravity (Sevared/Butchered Records) Predstavnici novog srpskog death metal talasa izdali su debi album pod okriljem dve američke izdavačke kuće Vladimir Ninčić Članovi svih naših ozbiljnijih death metal bendova verovatno mogu da se potrpaju u jednu osrednju maricu (sve sa instrumentima), ali to ne znači da ova malena zajednica nije proizvela materijal vredan pomena. Svoj najjači kreativni momenat srpski death metal je doživeo u samom nastanku, otprilike u vreme kada je na Floridi ili u Švedskoj bio na vrhuncu. Iako produkcijski inferiorni u odnosu na ostatak sveta, kragujevački sastavi Mortuary i Dead Joker, čačanska Necrophobia i Beograđani Bloodbath uspeli su da stvore scenu u zemlji u kojoj se burek naplaćivao novčanicom sa jedanaest nula i u vreme dok je downloadovanje još bilo samo košmar profitabilnih kompanija. Mnogi matori metalci danas se sa setom sećaju tih vremena, kada se svaka kaseta cenila kao Žuta osa u dijaspori, kada se štekalo nedeljama da bi se otišlo na koncert i kada je svako mogao da pokaže koliko stvarno vredi bez podlog trigerovanja bubnjeva ili mađioničarskih trikova u postprodukciji. Međutim, čini se da je u modernom hiperaktivnom dobu, u kome se čak i probe mnogih bendova mogu pronaći na ruskim sajtovima, mladim sastavima teže nego ikada da se izbore za mesto pod suncem. Zbog toga činjenica da beogradski Daggerspawn, grupa koja uz novosadski Disdained i nešto starije sugrađane Sacramental Blood danas predstavlja okosnicu najekstremnije gitarske forme u nas, izdaje svoj prvenac za dve američke etikete treba u startu dovoljno da kaže o njihovom potencijalu. Sevared Records i njegov ogranak Butchered Records su dva žanrovski precizno određena izdavača stacionoirana u državi Njujork, sa finom distribucionom mrežom koja će momcima iz Daggerspawna sigurno omogućiti publicitet o kome su do pre nekoliko meseci mogli da sanjaju. Težište ovih muzičkih firmi je jasno, što je jasno nakon letimičnog pogleda na potpuno nečitljive nazive bendova i zastrašujuće naslovne strane, i Beograđani se savršeno uklapaju u njihov katalog. Za početak (i prvi vizuelni kontakt), tu je omot inspirisan Lovecraftom, delo tatu majstora Jona Ziga, čije su ilustracije već krasile knjižice poznatih kolega iz branše (Suffocation ili Disgorge). Ipak, koliko god naslovnica izgledala ubedljivo, muzika je daleko važniji parameter, i ona u ovih 25 minuta (ne računajući bonus live materijal) nudi beskompromisan brutal death metal na tragu mašinerija Cannibal Corpse, Vomitory ili Dying Fetus. To podrazumeva furiozne rifove, pomahnitale solaže i bubnjarske blastbeatove koji kreiraju surovu i svirepu atmosferu i ne ostavljaju previše prostora za melodije i predah. Iz sviračkog ugla bi valjalo pomenuti pojedina zanimljiva rešenja na gitarama i prilično siguran brutalan vokal, što je naročito pohvalno, s obzirom na to da je to mesto često bivalo bolna karika u našem death metalu. Glavni problem leži u krajnje sintetičkom zvuku programiranih bubnjeva i ne baš najsretnijem balansu gitara i vokala. Polje na kojem bi Daggerspawn mogao da se razvija kada njegovi članovi u dovoljno ovladaju svojim oružjima i ka kome se bojažljivo osećaju pretenzije na ovoj ploči predstavlja znatno izazovniji (i podjednako brutalni) technical death metal u maniru Šveđana Spawn of Possession (koji su možda i uticali na naziv grupe) ili Poljaka Decapitated. Ovako, njihov debi će teško animirati nekoga ko se ne pronalazi u čistoj agresiji i stilski skučenom području, i velika je mogućnost da ga šira publika okarakteriše kao banalan i jednodimenzionalan. S druge strane, pozitivne reakcije od fanova su gotovo zagarantovane. Kako god se uzme, kreativni kapacitet Suffering Upon the Throne of Depravity je na sasvim solidnom nivou, ali je u isto vreme evidentno da metalci iz prestonice mogu još bolje. super recenizja Hvala http://www.popboks.com/tekst.php?ID=7201 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Splatter Posted March 9, 2009 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Svaka cast! jos da ste imali srece sa bubnjarem za snimanje gde bi vam bio kraj... nego sad oruzja u ruke i budzite nove stvari Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apeiron Posted March 9, 2009 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Daggerspawn intervju@ Serbian Metal Portal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Carver Posted March 9, 2009 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 (edited) Haha, Daggerspawn na naslovnoj strani megacitanog Popboksa, ko bi rekao! Inace, jako dobra i zanimljiva recenzija s kojom se 100% slazem. Ovo je prvi nas death metal album koji sam poslusao posle dosta godina i mogu reci da sam prijatno iznenadjen. Ceka se Sacarmental. Samo napred, momci! Edited March 9, 2009 by The Carver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joca_Wildchild Posted March 12, 2009 Report post Posted March 12, 2009 Ljudi hvala na pohvalama i kritikama ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed_Dead Posted March 13, 2009 Report post Posted March 13, 2009 XAXA neki tajlandjani su nam poslali recenziju,al nikako ne umem da je prevedem cak ni preeko googl prevodioca:P Reviews By Herry SIC Sepertinya scene Serbia semakin menancapkan Taring Runcingnya dikancah Metal dunia, kali ini 5 anak muda asal kota Belgrade mencoba mengibarkan nama Daggerspawn untuk semakin meramaikan perkembangan Death Metal, setelah teken Kontrak kerjasama dengan Sevared/Butchered Records, band yang aktif sejak tahun 2005 ini untuk pertama kalinya melepaskan Amunisi terbarunya sekaligus perdana yang terkemas dalam Full Album. Setelah malang melintang melalui beberapa Rilisan sebelumnya berupa Demo, split serta DVD, akhirnya ditahun 2009 “Suffering Upon The Throne of Depravity “ menjadi langkah mantap mereka untuk melebarkan sayapnya. Album ini merupakan pematangan Konsep mereka dari waktu kewaktu. Ok Album ini memuat 11 nomor termasuk didalamnya 3 rekaman panggung. Band ini mencoba menggabungkan elemen Florida Old School Death metal, New school Brutal Death dengan Technical Death Metal yang lumayan Kompleks, referensi Khusus dari nama Dying Fetus, Cannibal Corpse, Morbid Angel ,Monstrosity , BrokenHope, Aborted, Vader, Decapitated, Defleshed, Vomitory, Hingga Beheaded bisa coba elo temukan dalam Progresi serta Struktur Musik yang mereka ciptakan disini dengan sedikit sentuhan Khas mereka. Diawali dengan track “And the Slumber Ends “ menjadi sebuah Foreplay Intro yang dilanjut dengan “Awakening “ langsung Terasa banget sentuhan Morbid Angel yang dipadu dengan Cannibal Corpse pada Riff2 en Gaya Vocalnya -nya yang ga jauh terkontaminasi oleh gaya Riff Dying Fetus, Gaya Growl serta Guttural Vocalnya saling Bersahutan rapi disini. Karakter Musiknya masih terlalu Mudah ditebak. Permainan Drummer Nikola rasanya mengingatkan dengan gaya bermain Lee Harrison-nya Monstrosity dengan ketukan Hypersnare 1/32 yang ga terlalu speed, solo2 Gitarnya Lebih bergaya Trey Azagthoth-nya Morbid Angel serta Cannibal Corpse banget banyak menghiasi diaransemen lagunya. “Children of the Livid Sea “ masih ga jauh berbeda dengan “ Awakening “, Rasanya kalo Mendengar Karakter sound Vocalnya kita seperti diajak kembali ke Era Death Metal awal 90-an aja.solo2 gitar masih menghiasi setiap part2nya. “Decaying Box “ cuman sebuah Intro Ringan pengisi jeda sebelum masuk Track “I am the Thousand Plagues “ terasa sentuhan Aborted dipadu dengan Decapitated, hingga Track akhir “Children of the Livid Sea (Live) “ Daggerspawn masih dengan gesit menawarkan Part2 yang mengumbar Beat yang Death Metal Extreme abis. Mungkin ini menjadi Nuansa baru setelah kita terasa jenuh digempur dengan elemen2 Death Metal dengan sentuhan yang lebih Modern, namun Daggerspawn malah mencoba Back to Root untuk memadukan Irama laen. Hadir dengan Cover karya seniman Kondang Jonzig masih tetep diharapkan akan menambah Nilai Plus dalam Penjualan album ini. Buat yang masih ngefans sentuhan lama Morbid Angel dengan Cannibal Corpse melalui penggabungan elemen Riff Dying Fetus serta Monstrosity. Masih ga terlalu mengecewakan buat elo Koleksi koq tapi jangan lupa juga buat membaca Interview Gw dengan Mereka dihalaman laen. 4/5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arak Dai Posted March 13, 2009 Report post Posted March 13, 2009 evo samo se trebalo malo potruditi - jebiga sklopih kako sam mogao jako cudne recenice je sklapao lik ali verovatno je taj TAI jezik malo drugaciji od naseg haha note : "Decaying Box" ne postoji kao track - misli na "A Small Box Of Antiquities"... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It looks that the Serbian scene has something to offer to the metal world, this 5 young from city of Belgrade, are trying to put a name to the brisk development of Death Metal, after the signature of cooperation with the Sevared / Butchered Records. The band is active since 2005 and for the first time after few crosses through some form of previous label Demo, split DVD and, finally in 2009 "Suffering Upon The Throne of Depravity" a solid step to widen their wings. This album is a concept of maturation in time.Ok This album includes 11 numbers including the 3 stage recordings. Though this band combines elements of Old School Florida Death Metal, New School Death Brutal Technical Death Metal with their rather complex, the names of reference : Dying Fetus, cannibal Corpse, Morbid Angel, Monstrosity, BrokenHope, Aborted, Vader, Decapitated, Defleshed, Vomitory, until Beheaded, all can try to find in progresive structure of Music which they create with a little touch here... Begins with the track "And the Slumber Ends" as a foreplay intro than with the "Awakening" - directly, feels the touch of Morbid Angel is combined with the Cannibal Corpse in style of the riffs and Vocals, like Dying Fetus, - Style and Guttural growl vocals each other cleanly envelop here. Characteristic music still too easy to guess. Drummer Nikola's play reminds the style of Lee Harrison (Monstrosity) with its pounding Hypersnare 1 / 32 which is too fast, more guitar solos styled like Trey Azagthoth of Morbid Angel /Corpse cannibal and decorate the many songs. "Children of the Livid Sea" is still far different from the "Awakening": I Hear the characteristic vocal caracter sound like we are invited back to the early Death Metal Era of the 90-s. - solo guitar still decorates the part ( of the songs ) "Decaying Box" intro presents a brief pause before entering the Track "I am the Thousand Plagues" - Aborted feel combined with a touch of Decapitated, until the end of the Track... Daggerspawn still offers nimble parts providing the beat of Extreme Death Metal sound. Perhaps this is something very great, after we feel somewhat saturated today with repetative Death Metal bands with a more modern touch, but Daggerspawn are trying to get back to the roots from where it all came. Cover comes with famous work of artist Jonzig which is expected to increase the Value Plus Sales in this album. Created with the touch of old Morbid Angel, CC, merging elements of Dying Fetus and Monstrosity. It still makes me too disappointing, that i dont have the original in my Collection for now... do not forget, i will also make reading Interview with Them and post it online. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotoha Posted March 16, 2009 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 (edited) blagodareci mladom gospodinu vokalu usao sam u posjed albuma ). Spolja sasvim pristojno odradjen album, stampa na posebnom mirisljavom papiru, artwork je za 10. precizno, ultrabrutalno i brzo bas kao sto sam i ocekivao. Sto se bubnja tice, meni ne smeta, sledeci put ce biti bolje sigurno (%. Growl kasapin hahha, mada bi sigurno bilo bolje da je vokal uopste raznolikiji. cestitam bendu na albumu, sve posebno dobija na znacaju kad imamo u vidu izobilje dm izdanja kod nas sad dajte svirke. ;p XAXA neki tajlandjani su nam poslali recenziju,al nikako ne umem da je prevedem cak ni preeko googl prevodioca:P HAHAHAHA!!! sta je ovo jbt $DDDD prvo mi je palo na pamet da si izmislio ovaj jezik hahaha :DDDD ovo rune.. .)) Edited March 16, 2009 by cotoha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markomrki Posted March 16, 2009 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 Odlican je album slusam ga tri puta nedeljno, bice jos frapantnije dobro sa sledecim, solaze i dalje me loze, vlazim kao porno glumica. Zasluzujete samo dobre kritike, s obzirom koliko ginete za svoju stvar. Respect! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed_Dead Posted March 16, 2009 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 111 slava tebi @markomrki i onom @Sotoni gore xaxaxa bice bolje sledeci put, u principu smo zadovoljni jer smo dobro prihvaceni kod porno glumica haha al bice dosta bolje sledeci put - to je sigurno,ako nista drugo bice jos brutalnije. dm supreme Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Splatter Posted March 16, 2009 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 Porno DM is the shit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Splatter Posted March 17, 2009 Report post Posted March 17, 2009 Evo preslusao sam album sinoc, konacno. Meni je bubnjar nezamenjiv, ali sam ipak prihvatio cinjenicu da ste posle bezuspesne potrage bili prinudjeni da snimite ovaj album sa kompjuterskim bubnjem, i zvuk je dobar. Pored cinjenice da sam na disku na par pesama imao problema sa citanjem, tj. pojavljivalo se neko seckanje u jednakim intervalima... ili je do diska, sto nisam ocekivao za stampani disk iz inostranstva, ili je do mog citaca Jedino pored toga sto zameram je u svirackom delu i to sto su se i gitaristi izgleda navikli na zivog bubnjara i kompjuterska preciznost im nije bas odgovarala na snimanju pa ima poneka omashka. Pesme su solidno sastavljene, ne razumem se mnogo u brutal dm bendove i zanr, pa verujem da momci znaju sta rade. Ipak sviraju duze vreme zajedno ali to je tek pocetak. Jedino sto sa mogao da prepoznam (osim onoga sto pise u recenzijama) je Morbid Angel ponegde tek Svaka cast momci, imate potencijal, promocija i menadzment su na nivou xD da sam u vasim godinama i u vasem bendu sad bih navalio na drugi album i proboj ka stranim festivalima. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed_Dead Posted March 22, 2009 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 Review: Suffering Upon the Throne of Depravity (reviewed by Larry Griffin) Daggerspawn are a Serbian band ripping out some old-school Death Metal. They have been knocking around for a few years now, churning out the sort of singles, demos and splits you'd expect from a young band, and here we finally get their debut album. It's a pretty short album at only about 35 minutes of real meat, plus three live cuts to pad it out, but in the realms of Death Metal that is fairly standard. This band is not breaking any molds, as their sound is pretty much a hybridization of the speed of old Morbid Angel and the sludgy melody of classic Bolt Thrower. Sure, it's not original, but I like it. Daggerspawn go after it with a lot of energy, wringing out twisted, evil riffs leavened with melodic hooks and chaotic leadwork. They are not techy or precise, going after a feral assault more than the clickety sterility of some ‘broootal' bands. Speaking of clickety, there is not any of that here, as the production is actually pretty damned good. They have a nice fat guitar sound and drums that sound like drums, and while you can hear everything, it's still dirty enough to be cool. There is some wastage here, as the first and fourth tracks are both atmospheric interludes without much point. But with slabs of Death Metal killing like "Children Of The Livid Sea" and "I Am The Thousand Plagues" I am prepared to forgive quite a bit of that. Daggerspawn are just getting started, and a debut album this enjoyable says good things about their future potential. This is an underground gem for all Death Metal fans to check out, as this is a band worth watching for. http://www.metalcrypt.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uros Posted March 24, 2009 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 pozz svima na ovoj temi... nije da je pratim ali eto da i ja dodam koju... cuo sam ove promo materijale sto je bend ovde okacio... skroz su super!! alal vera i svaka cast!! samo gruvajte!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed_Dead Posted March 25, 2009 Report post Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) http://www.cosmosgaming.com/ Music: Daggerspawn: Suffering Upon The Throne of Depravity Our Take Hailing from Serbia, technical death metal band, Daggerspawn, formed in 2005. They released their debut demo in 2006, which, although similarly-titled, is not to be confused with their latest album. After playing around with a few split releases over the years, they finally released their debut album on Sevared/Butchered Records: Suffering Upon The Throne of Depravity. The introductory track, aptly-titled "And The Slumber Ends," is vastly different from the rest of the tracks; it is calm and full of atmospheric textures. Immediately following its abrupt end, the listener is violently torn from the aforementioned sleep, reanimated by the technical rampage that is "Awakening." The instrumentalists themselves are very skillful, not only in their dexterity and technicality, but also their songwriting, which enables them to properly execute very unconventional song structures. The beauty of this record is the fact that it seems to flow seamlessly. When there is silence, it feels beatmatched or balanced by symmetrical fades. These subtle things, such as the transition between "Awakening" and "Children of the Livid Scene," keep the listener attentive, as each track picks up where the other left off. This cohesiveness is complimented by the return of the ambiance of the opening track in "In the Bane and Enlightenment of Man," which brings the listener back to the occult theme of the album. At points, this quality works against the individuality of each song, as they meld together and sound very stylistically similar upon first listen. Obviously, like all albums, repeated listens can help each song grow and stand out, be it based on its structure, solos, or lyrics, but there is little variation. Another problematic aspect of the album is that it is barely 25 minutes long. To remedy this problem, the band included three bonus tracks at the end of the album. If you're looking for new material, look elsewhere, but these live takes are as raw as the rest of the album, proving that the band's brutality continues on the stage. For a debut album, this obviously sticks to the status quo. For what it is, Daggerspawn's Suffering Upon The Throne of Depravity is a solid effort and worth checking out for any serious or casual fan of death metal. http://www.myspace.com/officialdaggerspawn Nic Ross March 23, 2009 Edited March 25, 2009 by Speed_Dead Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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