Demon Seed Posted July 19, 2012 Report post Posted July 19, 2012 Fiktivne, Jare, fiktivne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Јарослав Posted July 19, 2012 Report post Posted July 19, 2012 А, то. Хаха, зајеб. Радим неки превод за кевину фирму, па сам се мало занео. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Seed Posted July 19, 2012 Report post Posted July 19, 2012 Opusteno, i Hrvati tako kazu. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted July 19, 2012 Report post Posted July 19, 2012 Tamo im namerno ujebavaš prevod? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Јарослав Posted July 19, 2012 Report post Posted July 19, 2012 Намерно, јашта. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grobodan Posted July 19, 2012 Report post Posted July 19, 2012 To je ono kada izvrtiš album toliko da ti uđe u uši kao loša pesma iz kafića, pa više i ne znaš šta valja? Ne, nisam ga slušao najmanje godinu i po. Uradio sam sad na pravi način, kupio alum, seo sa bukletom i liriksima i što je najvažnije bez neta i shvatio koliko je sjajan. Podlegao sam malo anti hajpu pre, sad je sve došlo na svoje. previše Iron Maiden, previše slatkasto i komercijalno za moje uši. Nema Mejdena ništa više nego kod Dissectiona, ja sam primetio više npr prve Metallice. Sviđa mi se što im je mutirao zvuk van granica black metala. Komercijalno je tačno šta u sedamdesetominutnom albumu? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oʞɾoƃ Posted July 19, 2012 Report post Posted July 19, 2012 Komercijalno je to što vidiš da se više trude da budu zli nego što zaista to jesu. Oduzmi im imidž, buklet i nastup, ostaje ti vrlo pitak black metal. Ne volim to, jednostavno. Postali su novi Dimmu Borgir, u smislu da se više niko ne tripuje da je Dimmu Borgir zao, ali zato svi misle da su neverovatno zajebani ako se lože na Watain. Ipak je to, je l' te, pravi satanizam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grobodan Posted July 19, 2012 Report post Posted July 19, 2012 Zato sam i rekao da sam svario album tek bez interneta kad nisam čitao razna mišljenja, intervjue benda i pljuvanja već samo slušao muziku. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 I pročitao ložačke tekstove. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oʞɾoƃ Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 To posebno. Ono tipa "higher, higher, sons of fire, daughters of the bla bla", zajebi. evo lepo čovek izrazi identično mišljenje u recenziji na Arhivama: According to Watain, June 7th is supposed to have been the day of black metal's rebirth. And although their words should not always be taken lightly, Watain are known just as much for their passion as they are for their big talk. Maybe it's all just theatrics, but nonetheless, having spent the last week listening to the band's latest offering, Lawless Darkness, this reporter finds himself skeptical that this album is a rebirth of anything other than outdated 1980's traditional metal, painted black. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grobodan Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 To što je nekom klasični metal outdated nije Watainov problem. Nije ni DsO ni BAN ni Nachtmystium... itd klasični black, pa šta? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) Objasni mi to poređenje, nikakav smisao ne vidim. Gojko kaže da ovi samo farbaju metal osamdesetih u crno, a ti navedeš ova tri benda koji su, svako na svoj način, pružili nešto sveže. Edited July 20, 2012 by Lou Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grobodan Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Pa recimo, posledni ban je Godflesh ofarban u crno, poslednji Watain je 80's metal ofarban u crno. A anyway se ne slažem uopšte da je taj album toliko hevi, black preovlađuje. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Маузер Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Sve je to smece. Mislite svojom glavom, slusajte Judas Iscariot. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Pa recimo, posledni ban je Godflesh ofarban u crno, poslednji Watain je 80's metal ofarban u crno. A anyway se ne slažem uopšte da je taj album toliko hevi, black preovlađuje. A DsO, tom putanjom poređenja je...? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grobodan Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 The work which transforms god? Ključna rečenica u ovom Gojkovom citatu je outdated, 80's metal nikad nije niti će biti outdated a Watain su odatle najviše pokupili smisao za songwriting sa glavom i repom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Ume da bude outdated, ako sviraš to trideset godina kasnije. To se dobro primenjuje na tvrdnju benda da su oni ovo i ono, vrh svega, a ne nude ništa novo, u suštini. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grobodan Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Ja upravo rekoh da ne sviraju, ima uticaja ali u razumnoj meri. Okrenuli su se pravim vrednostima. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Sotoni. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grobodan Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Da zaključim, kad se BAN tripuje na Godflesh a Nacht na Joy division i Ministry to je kul, a kad se Watain tripuje na matoru Metallicu to je šit - to je problem koji nije do benda. I opet, boli me kurac šta oni seru mada imaju i podosta pokrića. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Još uvek mislim da ti je logika poređenja loša. BAN su snimili jedan takav album. Onaj narkoman trenutno ne obećava sa novim materijalom, mislim da samo Talvi svršava na okačene pesme, ako i on. Erik je sa svojom ekipom čitavu diskografiju zasnovao na radu drugih bendova, i to ne više od tri osnovna. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Јарослав Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 80's metal nikad nije niti će biti outdated Ume da bude outdated, ako sviraš to trideset godina kasnije. Не. Пример - Мејдени. BAN su snimili jedan takav album. Исто као и Watain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Da ne ulazim u to šta Mejdeni danas sviraju, oni su bili na početku tog pravca. Nisam pričao o tome, nego o mladim bendovima koji uzmu da sviraju isto to decenijama kasnije. Watain provlače Jonove fore na svakom albumu. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Јарослав Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Мејдени свирају исто што и пре 30 година. Стил је исти, призвук је исти. Watain можда провлачи Dissection форе, али тако ти је то кад неки бенд има узоре. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grobodan Posted July 20, 2012 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Apsolutno, Watain nije ni blizu Dissection rip off benda, imaju par melodija tu i tamo i to je to. Dissection rip off je Thulcandra, recimo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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