lemmy sixx Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 @ lemmy sixx : S obzirom na to da sam ispao nedorečen u prošlom post-u (ili, u najgorem slučaju, aludirao na Kirk-ovu gitarsku očajnost), sad bih da se dopunim - slažem se sa tobom; ali do odredjenog opsega (budući da nisi rekao dovoljno da bih znao tvoj apsolutni stav o slučaju 'Kirk' ili 'Kirk VS Dave'). Mislim da Kirk jeste sasvim dobar gitarista, ali tek u okviru onoga što ume. Samo, tu je već problem - ne ume mnogo tj dovoljno za (bar) moj ukus... Suviše je ograničen za svoju veličinu, a i neretko repetitivan (bar u tehničkom aspektu svog sviranja). Ne mislim da je sterilan, nemaštovit, ali sam ubedjen da nije dovoljno dobar improvizator i da mu treba previše vremena da nešto stvori - nešto što je vidljivo tek u svom konačnom obliku. Hoću reći, veliki, umešni gitarista ne bi trebalo da gubi TOLIKO vremena i pokušaja na stvaranje nečega... Kirk, prosto, ne bi bio dovoljno dobrog renomea (tj njegovi solo-i ne bi bili toliko efektivni, uticajni) kada ne bi bilo James-a i Lars-a (a ranije i Bob Rock-a) da ga navode; a i to navodjenje je više u stilu: ''Ovo je sranje, napravi bolje i tad će te biti na albumu'', ne smisleno ukazivanje na nedostatke i punovredan podstrek... Baš zato mi je to tužno, ali i jadno - poigravaju se s njim, idući do granice kinjenja, a on je previše neuk da im se suprotstavi ili da ih demantuje. Slaba je ličnost, taj Kirk. A pregršt je dobrih i inteligentnih ljudi koji liče na naivce ili budale, a zapravo su smisleno, svesno takvi - dobri i tiho pametni. S druge strane imaš i arguabilnih genija kao što su Malmsteen i Zakk Wylde, koji preteruju sa 'napumpavanjem' svog Ega. Ključ veličine je u umerenosti... Radije bih da vidim malog, tihog čoveka koji postaje gorostas čim počne sa demonstracijom svojih sposobnosti (Randy Rhoads, Satriani, donekle Vai, Petrucci, Steve Morse, Paul Gilbert, M.A. Batio... naravno, verovatno se neće svi složiti sa ovim nabrajanjem; i to je sasvim OK. Ono što je bitno je moja poenta, jer su ukusi, vidjenja - različita, posve subjektivna; ali je Priroda stvari i njihov nepobitni, postojani poredak ono što je stalno i važno). Ako to već nije impozantno, taj nazovi-faktor iznenadjenja (vidi ga, jbt, jebe kevu gitari a izgleda kao običan pekar) i ne stimuliše bar na sirovu radost, dobar osećaj, a kamoli na to da se prihvatiš gitare i postaneš prokleto dobar u sviranju, ne znam šta jeste..! I tako je i u svim ostalim sferama Života (uz mnogo manje insinuacija na gitaru, lol). Moj apsolutno stav o,kako si ga nazvao,"slucaju Kirk" je sledeci:covek je jako dobar gitarista,koji je svojim radom (mislim na solaze) na albumima benda u kome svira,to i pokazao.Na koji je nacin dosao do toga je potpuno nebitno.Bitan je krajnji produkt.A taj krajnji produkt je odlican.Kakav je on kao covek,koliko mu treba vremena,zasto mu treba toliko vremena itd. je apsolutno nebitna stvar koja nas obicne slusaoce ne treba da zanima,posto je finalni produkt tj.ono sto mi cujemo,odlican.Stvarno ne vidim nikakvu potrebu za nekom filozofijom po pitanju ove materije.Al' bas nikakvu.Mene licno bas zabole za njih kao persone i sta i kako rade...ako je to sto cujem dobro,slusacu....a niko ne moze tvrditi da je to sto je on do sada radio,lose. Sto se tice ovog drugog slucaja...to necu ni da komentarisem.Totalna glupost praviti od toga diskusiju. Plus zvuce skroz gej. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlo SE Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 A te dve solidne pesme po tebi su ....? "That was just your life" i "My apocalypse"... ovu poslednju kao da je olmajti institucija pravila... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmy sixx Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 Lici,ali nije bas toliko dobra. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlo SE Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 To se podrazumeva... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuruz Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 Опет којекакви ретарди дискутују о умећима чланова Металике. Лечите се, пизда вам материна искомплексирана. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavrosaurus Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 Свака част и теби што, због глупог бенда, другима псујеш мајку. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Пармеђано Верте Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 I ti sad seres. Nije im jebao majku, nego samo spomenuo njinu vaginu, tj. "pizdu" kako je on rekao. To jedna od onih retkih psovki koje apsolutno nista ne znace i nisu uvredljive, iako ne zvuce tako. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Routasydän Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 Свака част и теби што, због глупог бенда, другима псујеш мајку. Treba ga razumeti, izgleda mu "kuruz" njije dobro rodio pa je nervozan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Flesh Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 (edited) obrisah post...Pokajao sam se Edited September 6, 2008 by davidian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vudun Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 Metallica MILF Orgy - Chapter I. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rle Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 spank my metall ass, grandmother Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rle Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 u pesmi bronek beat adn scarred na pochtku drugog minuta ima fenomenalna deonica dosta jednostavno se svira 15 17 15 14 12 12 12 12 1212 12121212 odprilike ali mi nije jeasno kako je izvukao takav zvuk od nechega sto meni zvuchi totalno krsh cccc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthmoog Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 Hameruje sve te note sto si napisao spojeno...to jest hameruje ih ali istovremeno i trzalicu koristi...bar sam ga tako ja skapirao... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rle Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 i fura neku pedalu verovatno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesrulz Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 (edited) Tekstovi pesama sa DM-a... 1. Metallica That Was Just Your Life Lyrics Like a siren in my head that i was placed to repeat, Like a blind man that was shoved into the speeding driver's seat, Like a face that learned to speak, when all it knew was how to fight, Like a misery that keeps me from just going out astray, Like an illness that i'm about to waken from its state. Contradiction, A premonition, Now are the aids who i deny, I deny. I blind my eyes and try to force it all into place, I stitch them up, see not my fall from grace. I blind my eyes, i hardly feel it passing me by, I open just in time to say goodbye. Almost like your life, Almost like your endless fight, Cursed, the day is long, Realize you don't belong, Disconnect somehow, Never stop complaining now, Almost like your fight, And there it went, Almost like your life. Like a bullet, keeps on bleeding to remind me not to think, Like a raging river, drowning when i only need a drink, Like a poison that i swallow, but i want the world to die. Like a release from a prison that i didn't know i was in, Like a fight to live the present, i pictured it like this, Like a general without a mission until the wars start again, Start again. I blind my eyes and try and force it all into place, I stitch them up, see not my fall from grace. I blind my eyes, i hardly feel it passing me by, I open just in time to say goodbye. Almost like your life, Almost like your endless fight, Cursed, the day is long, Realize you don't belong, Disconnect somehow, Never stop complaining now, Almost like your fight, And there it went, Almost like your life. Like a touch from hell, I feel how hot that it can get if you get caught, Like a strike from heaven that turns that key, That brings you straight down to your knees, Like a touch from hell, I feel how hot that it can get if i get caught, Like a strike from heaven to reprieve, That brings you straight down to your knees. Almost like your life, Almost like your endless fight, Cursed, the day is long, Realize you don't belong, Disconnect somehow, Never stop complaining now, Almost like your fight, And there it went, Almost like your life. That was just your life. 2. Metallica The End Of The Line Lyrics Need More and more Tainted misery Bleed Battle scars Chemical affinity Reign Legacy Innocence corrode Stain Rot away Catatonic overload Choke Asphyxia Snuff reality Scorch Kill the light Incinerate celebrity Reaper Butchery Karma amputee Bloodline Breeding fine Death contagious deity Hooked into this deceiver Need more and more Into the endless fever Need more and more New consequence machine Burn through all your gasoline Asylum overtime Never mind You reach the end of the line Time Choke the clock Steal another day Die Faithfully Narcissistic fade away Twisted Jump the rail Shout at the crowd below Breaker Chase the ghost The latest high to all time low Hooked into this deceiver Need more and more Into the endless fever Need more and more New consequence machine Burn through all your gasoline Asylum overtime Never mind You reach the end of the line Drop the hourglass of time Spinning sand we will not find As we gather here today We bid farewell The slave becomes the master The slave becomes the master The slave becomes the master The slave becomes the master Need more and more Right now and ever after Need more and more New consequence machine Burn through all your gasoline Asylum overtime Never mind Dead hourglass of time Sand we will not ever find We gather here today Say goodbye 'Cause you've reached the end of the line The end of the line The end of the line The end of the line You've reached the end of the line 3. Metallica Broken, Beat & Scarred Lyrics Need More and more Tainted misery Bleed Battle scars Chemical affinity Reign Legacy Innocence corrode Stain Rot away Catatonic overload Choke Asphyxia Snuff reality Scorch Kill the light Incinerate celebrity Reaper Butchery Karma amputee Bloodline Breeding fine Death contagious deity Hooked into this deceiver Need more and more Into the endless fever Need more and more New consequence machine Burn through all your gasoline Asylum overtime Never mind You reach the end of the line Time Choke the clock Steal another day Die Faithfully Narcissistic fade away Twisted Jump the rail Shout at the crowd below Breaker Chase the ghost The latest high to all time low Hooked into this deceiver Need more and more Into the endless fever Need more and more New consequence machine Burn through all your gasoline Asylum overtime Never mind You reach the end of the line Drop the hourglass of time Spinning sand we will not find As we gather here today We bid farewell The slave becomes the master The slave becomes the master The slave becomes the master The slave becomes the master Need more and more Right now and ever after Need more and more New consequence machine Burn through all your gasoline Asylum overtime Never mind Dead hourglass of time Sand we will not ever find We gather here today Say goodbye 'Cause you've reached the end of the line The end of the line The end of the line The end of the line You've reached the end of the line 4. Metallica The Day That Never Comes Lyrics Born to push you around You better just stay down You pull away He hits the flesh You hit the ground Mouth so full of lies Tend to black your eyes Just keep them close Keep praying Just keep a-waiting Waiting for the one The day that never comes When you stand up and feel the warmth But the sunshine never comes, no No, the sunshine never comes Push you cross that line Just stay down this time Hiding yourself Crawl in yourself You’ll have your time God I’ll make them pay Take it back one day I’ll end this day I'll splatter colour on this grave Waiting for the one The day that never comes When you stand up and feel the warmth But the sunshine never comes Love is a four letter word And never spoken here Love is a four letter word Here in the prison I suffer this no longer I put it into This I swear! This I swear! The sun will shine This I swear! This I swear! This I swear! 5. Metallica All Nightmare Long Lyrics All Nightmare Long Luck. Runs. Out. Crawl from the wreckage one more time Horrific memory twists the mind Dark, rugged, cold and hard to turn Path of destruction, feel it burn Still life Incarnation Still life Infamy Hallucination Heresy Still you run, what's to come? What's today? 'Cause we hunt you down without mercy Hunt you down all nightmare long Feel us breathe upon your face Feel us shift, every move we trace Hunt you down without mercy Hunt you down all nightmare long, yeah Luck. Runs. You crawl back in But your luck runs out 1.2. Luck. Runs. Out. The light that is not light is here To flush you out with your own fear You hide, you hide, but will be found Release your crypt without a sound Still life Immolation Still life Infamy Hallucination Heresy Still you run, what's to come? What's today? 'Cause we hunt you down without mercy Hunt you down all nightmare long Feel us breathe upon your face Feel us shift, every move we trace Hunt you down without mercy Hunt you down all nightmare long Luck. Runs. You crawl back in But your luck runs out Then you crawl back in Into your obsession Never to return This is your confession Hunt you down without mercy Hunt you down all nightmare long Feel us breathe upon your face Feel us shift, every move we trace Hunt you down without mercy Hunt you down all nightmare long, yeah Luck. Runs. You crawl back in But your luck runs out Your luck runs out 6. Metallica Cyanide Lyrics Sleep, and dream of this Death angel's kiss Brings final bliss Come believe me! Empty they say Death, won't you let me stay? Empty they say Death, won't you call your name? Oh, call your name! Suicide, I've already died You're just the funeral I've been waiting for Cyanide, living dead inside Break this empty shell forevermore Wait, wait patiently Your death-black wings Unfolding sleep Spreading on me Empty they say Death, won't you let me stay? Empty they say Death, hear me call your name Oh, call your name! Suicide, I've already died You're just the funeral I've been waiting for Cyanide, living dead inside Break this empty shell forevermore Say, is that rain or are they tears? That stained your concrete face for years Crying, weeping, shedding strife Year after year, life after life A narrow freshly broken ground A concrete angel laid right down Upon the grave which swallows fast It's peace at last Oh, peace at last Empty they say Death, won't you let me stay? Empty they say Death, hear me call your name Oh, call your name Suicide, I've already died You're just the funeral I've been waiting for Cyanide, living dead inside Break this empty shell forevermore Forevermore! Forevermore! It's the funeral I've been waiting for! 7. Metallica The Unforgiven III Lyrics How could he know this new dawn's light Would change his life forever? Set sail to sea but pulled off course By the light of golden treasure Was he the one causing pain With his careless dreaming? Been afraid Always afraid Of the things he's feeling He could just be gone He would just sail on He would just sail on How can I be lost? If I've got nowhere to go? Searched the seas of gold How come it's got so cold? How can I be lost In remembrance I relive How can I blame you When it's me I can't forgive? These days drift on inside a fog It's thick and suffocating This seeking life outside its hell Inside intoxicating He's run aground Like his life Water's much too shallow Slipping fast Down with the ship Fading in the shadows now A castaway Blame All gone Away Blame gone away How can I be lost If I've got nowhere to go? Search for seas of gold How come it's got so cold? How can I be lost In remembrance I relive And how can I blame you When it's me I can't forgive? Forgive me Forgive me not Forgive me Forgive me not Forgive me Forgive me not Forgive me Forgive me, why can't I forgive me? Set sail to sea but pulled off course By the light of golden treasure How could he know this new dawn's light Would change his life forever How can I be lost If I've got nowhere to go? Search for seas of gold How come it's got so cold? How can I be lost In remembrance I relive So how can I blame you When it's me I can't forgive? 8. Metallica The Judas Kiss Lyrics When the world has turned its back When the days have turned pitch black When the fear abducts your tongue When the fire's dead and gone So what now? Where do I head? When you think it's all said and done When you are the ostracized Selfish written, dead goodbyes Twisting of the tourniquet When the pieces never fit So what now? Where do I head? When you think it's all said and done Bow down Sell your soul to me I will set you free Pacify your demons Bow down Surrender unto me Submit infectiously Sanctify your demons Into abyss You don't exist Cannot resist The Judas kiss When the storm has blacked your sky Intuition crucify When the ego strips your reign Assasinate the living flame So what now? Where do I head? When you think it's all said and done Venom of a life insane Bites into your fragile veins Internalize and decimate Pitting it as complicate So what now? Where do I head? When you think it's all said and done Bow down Sell your soul to me I will set you free Pacify your demons Bow down Surrender unto me Submit infectiously Sanctify your demons Into abyss You don't exist Cannot resist The Judas kiss Judas lives recite this vow I've become your new god now Follow you from dawn of time Whisper thoughts into your mind Watched your towers hit the ground Lured the children never found Helped your kings abuse their crown In the heart of evil man Plant the seeds of my own plan Strong and powerful will fall Find a piece of me in all Inside you all So bow down Sell your soul to me I will set you free Pacify your demons Bow down Surrender unto me Submit infectiously Sanctify your demons Into abyss You don't exist Cannot resist The Judas kiss 9. Metallica Suicide & Redemption Lyrics (instrumental) 10. Metallica My Apocalypse Lyrics Claustrophobic Crawl out of this skin Hard explosive Reaching for that pin Feel thy name extermination Desacrating, Hail of Fire So we cross that line Into the crypt Total eclipse Suffer unto my apocalypse! Deadly vision Prophecy revealed Death magnetic Pulling closer still Feel thy name annihilation Desolating, Hail of Fire So we cross that line Into the crypt Total eclipse Suffer unto my apocalypse! My apocalypse… Go! Crushing metal, Ripping Skin Tossing body mannequin Spilling Blood, Bleeding Gas Mangle flesh, Snapping spine Dripping bloody valentine Shattered face, spitting glass Split apart Split apart Split apart Split Spit it out! What makes me drift a litter bit closer Dead man takes the steering wheel What makes me know it’s time to cross over Words you repeat until I feel See through the skin the bones they all rattle Future and past they disagree Flesh falls away the bones they all shatter I start to see the end in me See the end in me… Clautrophobic Climb out of this skin Hard explosive Waiting for that pin Violate, annihilate A loser to my eyes Obliterate, exterminate At last accept, deny Feel thy name as hell awakens Destiny, Inhale the Fire But we cross that line Into the crypt Total eclipse Suffer unto my apocalypse! Tyrants awaken my apocalypse! Demon awaken my apocalypse! Heaven awaken my apocalypse! Suffer forever my apocalypse! Edited September 6, 2008 by nesrulz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthmoog Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 (edited) @rle ne znam ne zvuci mi ko neki pitchshifter ali samo na tim 12-icama na ostalim notama se ne cuje promena nikakava...ja sam ga sada svirao samo sa distorzijom i prilicno isto zvuce....ali ima caka...kada okidash ovu 12icu benduj je malo...ali istovremeno koliko god cudno zvucalo...pokushasj da radish sve vreme neki semi pinch harmonic...znaci ne potpuno da se cuje svinja vec samo onako palac malo da stoji na toj zhici i dobicesh taj malo pitchovan zvuk kada svirash ove 12ice kao kratke bendove...meni barem tako najbolje zvuci kada ga sviram... Edited September 6, 2008 by darthmaul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesrulz Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 (edited) Broken, Beat & Scarred ima txt od The End Of The Line, editovaću to čim nađem prave reči. Edited September 6, 2008 by nesrulz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest INSAjADER Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 Jao,pa ovaj death magnetic je pravo otkrovenje sezone...aaaaaaaaa kakvi rifovi da se upiskis od srece!!! To je to. To je prava THRASH METAL Metallica, ovo je album koji je dostojan naslednik ..And Justice For All. Na ovako nesto se cekalo godinama, 15 punih godina hej! Na primer,da se ja pitam,meni je ovaj album kvalitetniji od ,,Seasons In The Abyss,, Slayera! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duxa Deathroll Rising Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 I ti sad seres. Nije im jebao majku, nego samo spomenuo njinu vaginu, tj. "pizdu" kako je on rekao. Rade Serbedzija: 'Pizda je karakterna osobina...a picka je zenski polni organ...' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuPaK Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 'Pizda je karakterna osobina...a picka je zenski polni organ...' Zna znanje ovaj Duxa! ELEM ALBUM JE PREJEBANO DOAR ,MENIII SEEE JEBENO MNOGO SVIDJA!! :rockdevil: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesrulz Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 Neće da radi edit više, evo je ovde... 3. Metallica Broken, Beat & Scarred Lyrics You rise, you fall, you’re down then you rise again What don’t kill you make you more strong You rise, you fall, you’re down then you rise again What don’t kill you make you more strong Rise, fall, down, rise again What don’t kill you make you more strong Rise, fall, down, rise again What don’t kill you make you more strong Through black days Through black nights Through pitch black insights Breaking your teeth on the hard life coming Show your scars Cutting your feet on the hard earth running Show your scars Breaking your life, broken beat and scarred But we die hard The dawn, the death, the fight to the final breath What don’t kill you make you more strong The dawn, the death, the fight to the final breath What don’t kill you make you more strong Dawn, death, fight, final breath What don’t kill you make you more strong Dawn, death, fight, final breath What don’t kill you make you more strong They scratched me They scraped me They couldn’t rape me Breaking your teeth on the hard life coming Show your scars Cutting your feet on the hard earth running Show your scars Breaking your life, broken beat and scarred But we die hard Breaking your teeth on the hard life coming Show your scars Cutting your feet on the hard earth running Show your scars Braiding your soul in a hard luck story Show your scars Spilling your blood in a hot suns foray Breaking your life, broken, beat and scarred We die hard We die hard We die hard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlo SE Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 Na primer,da se ja pitam,meni je ovaj album kvalitetniji od ,,Seasons In The Abyss,, Slayera! U Bog te jeb'o :o Auh, kucam vec 3 minuta i brisem sve, ne znam sta da napisem... ovaj komentar bukvalno ostavlja bez teksta... ja sam pricalica, ali ovo, na ovo odgovora nema. @Lemmy: Kolega, pre nego napises bilo sta, sedi, popij vodu/sok/pivo, duboko udahni i samo polako. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko.nocturne Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 Na primer,da se ja pitam,meni je ovaj album kvalitetniji od ,,Seasons In The Abyss,, Slayera! Pa, da se ja pitam, ja ne bih dozvolio da se ti pitaš... bez uvrede... ali da je jači od Seasons... pretra ga. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackened Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 Ma kakav Slayer , i meni je DM bolji... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hate squad Posted September 6, 2008 Report post Posted September 6, 2008 Ok, ok ajde sad ne preterujete... DM je jako dobar album, ali ipak, samo jedan je Seasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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